Fixed About the recent Halloween potion removal

[zold]

I saw so many complaints about these potions (especially the +222 def).

Ofc it is not (lets call it) fair against newer players that they didnt have a chance to obtain these potions. But the really problem isnt that or these things. Since the last update our attack/m.attack got lowered and/or def got increased we got to see so many players being almost immortal at tg. When u have (as an FA) 3400+ def in bm3+aura that +222 def is NOT do anything, not speaking about e.g. FS, who has 5700+ in aod (full geared).

On the other hand its super unfair against those players who spent their time to get these. I am highly against it, cuz the main profit about the event was to get as much Protection of Veradrix as I could. Now getting all of these potions removed just because they increased the def, and lowered Attack/m.Attack values to prevent getting oneshotted is sounds ridiculous. Its like the hours/days ppl spent to farm these, just getting removed cuz others were LAZY or wasnt even on the server.

My suggestion is: If the complaining still goes on, then remove the DEF potion only. Why would u remove others while they dont do that much at tg? Still my opinion is that when u have without bm a 2200+ def, that +222 doesnt matter at all...


TL.DR.: - Complaining about to remove puts cuz ppl were lazy to farm those is a joke
- It is not a good point to remove cuz u werent here, or u r a new player only
- It is UNfair against those players who still using them (like POV)
- My opinion is still that +222 def isnt do much (e.g. the gap between any other sets and chaos is huge, thats why lower geared players experiencing literally doing zero dmg to end-game geared players)

SUGGESTION: Remove ONLY DEF pots if complaining still goes on, but NOT ALL others
Edit.: Or change the pots attributes to similar like what Holy Water of Vitality has (restoring 100% hp and mana) which is that this one potion cant be used in tg ('Cant be used in this world'). Dont know if its possible, if its not then nevermind.

Other suggestion are welcomed!

 

[NineteenSixtynine]

Honestly i can't really see how 222 can be that much of a deal lol with that said i agree as well if you want to remove those go for it np but don't touch the povs indeed (as well as the other ones) since ye those were the main point of the event and none complained about pve so :|

 

[ricu]

I saw so many complaints about these potions (especially the +222 def).

Ofc it is not (lets call it) fair against newer players that they didnt have a chance to obtain these potions. But the really problem isnt that or these things. Since the last update our attack/m.attack got lowered and/or def got increased we got to see so many players being almost immortal at tg. When u have (as an FA) 3400+ def in bm3+aura that +222 def is NOT do anything, not speaking about e.g. FS, who has 5700+ in aod (full geared).

On the other hand its super unfair against those players who spent their time to get these. I am highly against it, cuz the main profit about the event was to get as much Protection of Veradrix as I could. Now getting all of these potions removed just because they increased the def, and lowered Attack/m.Attack values to prevent getting oneshotted is sounds ridiculous. Its like the hours/days ppl spent to farm these, just getting removed cuz others were LAZY or wasnt even on the server.

My suggestion is: If the complaining still goes on, then remove the DEF potion only. Why would u remove others while they dont do that much at tg? Still my opinion is that when u have without bm a 2200+ def, that +222 doesnt matter at all...


TL.DR.: - Complaining about to remove puts cuz ppl were lazy to farm those is a joke
- It is not a good point to remove cuz u werent here, or u r a new player only
- It is UNfair against those players who still using them (like POV)
- My opinion is still that +222 def isnt do much (e.g. the gap between any other sets and chaos is huge, thats why lower geared players experiencing literally doing zero dmg to end-game geared players)

SUGGESTION: Remove ONLY DEF pots if complaining still goes on, but NOT ALL others
Edit.: Or change the pots attributes to similar like what Holy Water of Vitality has (restoring 100% hp and mana) which is that this one potion cant be used in tg ('Cant be used in this world'). Dont know if its possible, if its not then nevermind.

Other suggestion are welcomed!

I agreed with this sad for new player there always like this when new player join. And old player the lazy one.. Sad for u dude

 

[Hades]

Just retain POV but remove or degrade def/attack related pots, that will be great.
Well if u seek to lure more new players, think of balance. Also, people just come here to play on TG, especially those with hi end gears. TG must be fun and equal. It is where you will realize your skill that u dedicated much time and effort and money ofc.
And for new players with potential, time and money wise, they will stay and embrace this server. Let us not drive them away. Why the "drive them away" statement, it is due to knowing there are OP pots out there where the old players have managed to hourd, pvp/tg is one sided. Therefore, no chance of proving themselves. Strike while the iron is hot. Give them a good first impression.
All we are asking is BALANCE. That is all.
And for those who accumulated more or have a tons of this pots, we profited more already, coz its been there for 3 months.
Let us not be hypocrites of saying theres a little effect. Lets not be selfish of having the glory of TG or most kills to ourselves.
BALANCE BALANCE BALANCE.
If the server wish to seek out more money, offer in ccash for everybody to access with a reasonable price tag. If thats whats keeping the admin to take immediate decision. That will be realistic.

 

[zold]

I agree with the BALANCE point. There should be balance, but the reason why the tg is unbalanced now isnt because of the def or atk pots.
If u watch back every suggestion/feedback thread in the past there is NOT ANY of those 'remove halloween pots cuz op'. You can ask why? The only reason they popped up because of the chaos set changes (lowered atk, increased def). This +222 def didnt do shit in the past at tg, now either. It doesnt make you invincible, just because of the higher def it is harder to hit through the def cap.
These potions does not unbalances the tg, why would they? Why does +222 matters if you have already 3k+ as an endgame player in bm3?

The only reason this revent thread popped up because of the def changes. Only fs had a valueable def in aod that you vouldnt hit through, now with the buff others also. Especially if you dont have high gear you do literally zero dmg to them.
PVP/tg is kinda one-sided now, procs stronger atm. But back in the time caps ruled the server for months, the tides will turn.
In the end its not the pots what caused the removal thread, its the increased def. There were 3 months where def pots was there. Were there ANY 'pls remove pots' threads? No... the reason is above.

Remove it, if you want, but dont touch others (even that def potion is not giving much to be considered as op).

 

[ricu]

funny dude later if the gm remove this pumpkin pot and there some player with high skill and hard to kill u guys will say hacker

 

[Dehnfeld]

the incidents with high armored opponents happend before we updated the chaos sets aswell, we removed the potion preserve the balance and bring back they enjoyment of TG that so many people have lost due to this, however if the removal of the potion doesnt fix that then we have to look into alternatives as to how we deal with higher defense target without having to punish the squishy ones. i've always been a fan of tweaking with the class buffs but im 99% sure that those are not in the interest of the admins, anyhow i dont think PoV is going to be removed.

 

[ricu]

They will always problems when player not like to be piss off